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Re: Brake E500

From: "Tiger" <tiger0002(at)hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: Brake E500

Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:17:53 -0400

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Possibly if you change all the rotors, calipers, mounting bracket, pads and

possibly your wheels if no room.



I find MB rotors tend to be enough for most people. The biggest single

improvement I highly recommends to anyone who wants better brake is to

change the brake pads to aftermarket brands. It is instant, economical and

major improvement over factory pads. For most people, I would stick with

Ceramic type pads such as Akebono Euro Ceramic pads.



Next stop up would be Hawk racing pads sold by Tirerack... PBR Metal

Master... but with these pads, you must understand that the pads need to be

warmed up for optimal braking power... so the first braking action in the

morning seems kinda numb but after this, the hotter it get, the more

grabbing power it has. I have been using Metal Master for years... I think

about 13 years... This is tried and true pad old tech.



Carbon pads are best used to tracks only...These really really needs to be

warmed up. Unsuitable for normal driving unless you really are willing to

understand the behavior of these pads.



I don`t know or have any experience with the latest pads... I once had

Performance Friction Carbon pads back in 1993 and boy, they really need warm

up.










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"Tiger" <tiger0002(at)hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Possibly if you change all the rotors, calipers, mounting bracket, pads

> and possibly your wheels if no room.

>

> I find MB rotors tend to be enough for most people. The biggest single

> improvement I highly recommends to anyone who wants better brake is to

> change the brake pads to aftermarket brands. It is instant, economical and

> major improvement over factory pads. For most people, I would stick with

> Ceramic type pads such as Akebono Euro Ceramic pads.

>

> Next stop up would be Hawk racing pads sold by Tirerack... PBR Metal

> Master... but with these pads, you must understand that the pads need to

> be warmed up for optimal braking power... so the first braking action in

> the morning seems kinda numb but after this, the hotter it get, the more

> grabbing power it has. I have been using Metal Master for years... I think

> about 13 years... This is tried and true pad old tech.

>

> Carbon pads are best used to tracks only...These really really needs to be

> warmed up. Unsuitable for normal driving unless you really are willing to

> understand the behavior of these pads.

>

> I don`t know or have any experience with the latest pads... I once had

> Performance Friction Carbon pads back in 1993 and boy, they really need

> warm up.



Tiger have you experienced increased wear on the disk rotor with non OEM

pads? (especially the Hawk). I usually change my rotors every other pad

change.










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From: "Tiger" <tiger0002(at)hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: Brake E500

Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:06:48 -0400

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Actually it is the opposite. The rotors last longer. I find with factory

pads, rotors wear out real fast... this is usually due to glazing... the

increased heat and friction as compared to upgraded pads.



Since the upgraded pads grabs much quicker and faster... there seems to be

less heat and wear... don`t quote me on this. I know this is very

subjective.



In my 13 years of experience with Metal Masters, the pads last longer and

the rotors never glaze.



Another upgrade I always do is buy slotted rotors. These last even longer

than standard rotors and stop way way better than stock rotors.



I also had cross drilled rotors for nearly 8 years before I had to change it

out... These are awesome but noisy... sounds just like airplane braking

after you land... However, I find the slotted rotors just as good and much

quieter.



So, a pad change with slotted rotors and your brake is pretty awesome.












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